QRFL

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:39 pm

hey guys i still get the goosebumps when torching around z-bar, is there a trick you use that allows you to put a good flame in there, to get the goop out without having it sneaking behind the z-bar???

SYS

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:55 pm

QR not sure what z bar is but I am assuming it's something like term bar that's what we call it here anyway it's a metal strip across the top of a curb that get's screwed on if I'm wrong would u tell me what it is. If this is what you are talking about though, I use a spatula put it up against the edge and fire away

QRFL

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:15 pm

yea sis here is a pic.



spatula sometimes seems to be unsafe also do.. but thanks for the reply

SYS

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:27 pm

ok yeah pretty much same idea shaped a little bit different that what I was talking about. As far as saftey use a wooden handled spatula and a leather glove if you are nervous about getting burned and make sure to point the fire in the direction of the point of the spatula away from yourself of corse. I'm a lil pyro so I don't get to paranoid when I get close to the flame from my torch. They have different sized spatula's as well the little real tiny one's are a bit nerve wrecking for those whom don't play with fire. btw I never burnt anything down on accident

QRFL

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:53 pm

yea i see all that smoke from the torch getting trapped under the z-bar and i woorry it my be the stucco paper, i ve seen crazy guys torching straigh on to the plywood, you see the wood starting to spark and they drop the dibiten on it, others i seen torch on wide open areas with open insulation, they actually spray water on it and all they say is:

"well the boss is supossed to bring the wood to cover it and he hasnt come so screw him"

Master

Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:30 pm

If this was a re-roof situation, I would NEVER point ny flame behind an existing Zbar, or counterlashing. You never know whats behind there. I mean that is insane...thats how buildings burn to the ground....we have a rule... if you cant see it, consider it combustible and use the flop method.

If you cannot get the mod bit flashing behind it, then you surely will not be able to terminate the top of the flasning sheet.

If you cannot terminate the flashing sheet, then you need to remove the counterflashing, and replace it after you install the field sheet and base flashing anyways. It will also be more safe at the same time.

Dude, you better make sure you attend one of the CERTA programs for your torch safety certification if you are using torches, and blowing your flame back there blindly.

SYS

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:12 am

Some guy set a tree on fire one day on one of my dad's hot jobs quite a story there. I have seen a few fires start but that was when my Uncle got his hands on a torch we try not to let that happen to much. He has been known to set the roof on fire. So next time you see a group of roofers on a flat job doing the mexican hat dance, just know they never made it to the CERTA course.

Shane@RRSroofing

Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:21 am

burned up a palm tree in san diego summer a few years ago from 10 feet away!

Pride_roofing

Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:35 am

watched a mountain jacks resturant burn to the ground form a moron roofer.

Shane@RRSroofing

Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:48 am

i was torchin the roof but it was so hot and dry just the increased heat caused it to combust. probably 110 out and hadn't rained for a while. Caught shoe laces and pant legs on fire over the years too! Master the flop method is the way to go thats why I never caught a building on fire!

SYS

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:00 am

lol that's some good stories guys. Every soldier got a story to tell! I have had my shoestrings burnt and the hair of the back of my hand... guess who!?! I was on a school/church once and this idiot had the kettle at like 700 degrees or something it had pure yellow smoke billowing out of it. I saw the smoke from the roof and alerted everyone to the huge fire this idiot started. It was kind of funny looking back on it no one got hurt... but we all had our share of pannic that day. It was sitting real close to the building had steep wrappers all over the ground around it. He had the lid wide open lil drops of tar flames were bubbling out of the kettle onto the steep wrappers. It was crazy I screamed from the roof close the lid you dumb a**. Remember school/church durring classes. The moron who did it, said his last job he was in the military or something he was a submarine mechanic.

Master

Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:59 am

OK,

I have burned a bush right next to the building by knocking my torch off the roof edge while stripping in...lucky I had my fully charged 2 gallon fire extinguisher on hand.

Lucky another guy had his when I caught my pantleg on fire.

Who hasnt burned a broom?

SYS, did you guys empty the kettle after the fire was put out?

I think every kettleman is allowed ONE fire so that he knows the limits.

I LOVE HOT!

SYS

Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:08 am

I didn't mess with it but the guy who set the fire sure did he spent some time on that job Yeah everyone is entitled to let one by but not 5 ft. away from a school with children in it dang it.

QRFL

Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:48 am

rain in the forecast and ac unit still not in its way, this contractor made the call to turn up the ply an mop it trying to buil some kind of high spot to keep the water from going in...

end of story was:

it didnt rain, maybe just light drizzle, barely moist the asphalt, guys when dumped tar to build it up , ply was so hot it collapsed making the hot run into the building thru a ceiling sprinkler head, and unto the chest of an elderly woman in bed, third degree burns, family left her there but after the accident even the dog showed up to sue.

SYS

Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:00 am

That's awful poor lady. Poor contractor. My lord what a bad idea that was. One hella learning experience.