GODJOEY

Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:41 pm

We had a roof done a year ago by the company our insurance company suggested we use Elite restorations. They put tar paper on the roof it stayed up there for 5 months no shingles. They finally put shingles up there it now failed the inspection. Do we contact a lawyer ? We are at our ends wits here we have no direction of who to talk to now. The insurance company doesn't respond back, the company said 3 months ago they would come back out.

The holes the guy drove into the roof prior to the new roof actually leaked, I mean I'm no roofer but it definitely feels like this was a bandaid job.
They have come back out to replace the skylight 1 visit, 2nd visit the leaky roof, 3rd visit repaint the ceilings cause of all the water damage. I'm also curious now if I look at my ceiling I'm noticing an odd line across my ceiling. As if theirs moisture up there and the drywall that is my ceiling is Bowing. I'm not someone who knows about home building or anything but this is becoming obvious to me. Again this wasn't like this prior to the hurricanes we got hit with.

They forgot to put a ridge vent up, they left the old skylights up there that needed to be replaced, it leaked the first time it rained, the shingles aren't trimmed off the sides. But I do notice in the records here in Florida they put a bunch of leans against peoples homes, I'm wondering how come nobody sues them for this type of faulty work?

These are mostly out of state roofers who are hired by a Florida contractor and they work under their license. It's also hard to even get a roofer out here without a minimum of a $2500 job for them. They actually pull into the driveway see a roof that is done they immediately pull out and leave.

Really sad seeing new homes being built faster than we can have this roof completed.

I mean you would think there is a business out there that puts people like this out of business.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated thank you.

G-Tape

Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:24 pm

I would think it all has to go through your insurance company. I would be on them like flies on............well, you get the idea. You named the roofer, what is the insurance company? I want to stay away from them.


I feel since the insurance company recommended them, the insurance company is responsible. Make them responsible!

Pride_roofing

Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:54 am

I would contact that same insurance company first off. Secondly I would make it a point to go to the offices of the roofing compnay and state that you want his fixed. If They will not at that point call the state about there licence. If they have one you will have recourse if not well im out of options. Hope things get better.

GODJOEY

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:30 am

Thanks for the replies, the wife is going to call again they promised for so long to call back but refuse to. I'm guessing atleast 50 phone calls in a year. The people doing the world are more of jack of all trades type that are taking temp work. It's amazing the moment these people got the big brunt of the money (roof replacement). They don't want to come back out again. I'm curious does not having a ridge vent up there void the warranty on the shingles themselves? Also since the shingles are hanging off on all ends of the roof just trimming them is proper work method? So many questions I know but I can't believe people do sub par work.

Pride_roofing

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:36 am

JOey send me a few pics if you would. Ridge vent will not void your warranty unless there is not enough soffit vents. As long as you haave the proper amount of vents i would say your ok. As far as the cutting well thats workmanship and that leads me down another road. If you would please sen me a few pics and the dims of you home on the ground length x width ican tell you if you have enough vents. Any other questions feel free thats what this posting is all about. I hope as is well. Dont worry too much you will have gray hair like me. We will get you fixed up.

GODJOEY

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:47 am

Thanks alot man, I will take those pics tomorro with the digi cam. I'm getting alot of white hair lol. Got a newborn here , thinking of this roof over the longhaul. 1 more hurricane we are out of Florida, 2 direct hits here in Palm Bay. First Frances then Jeanne it was something I tell ya. The hurricanes weren't a bad experience but the aftermath heat minus A/C= hell.

The holes he put up in the roof about 20 , it rained through the shingles and through that tar paper. The guy who did the roof never showed back up, he had all laborers do it all. Lets just say they didn't seem legal.

Pride_roofing

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:51 am

Send me as many pics as 6 megs per emial can handle. I will help you the best i can. I am one of the residental experts ventilation is my for-ta. Master is our local Flat and residental, G is the shingle man and good ole QRFL is well the all around. Between the 4 of us we can get you the correct answers.

GODJOEY

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:15 pm

Ok here are some shots, not that great since the newborn has me zombified. Not getting much sleep.
I really didn't realize how bad that this job looked till I zoomed in.
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tilesmessedup4ng.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tiles5tu.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/my.php?image=noridgevent3yp.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2plusinchoverhang2lq.jpg


Hope these come out, insurance company still refuses to respond back and the roofers keep saying there is nobody to help please call back. Curious what to do next the amount of time in calls is amazing.

Master

Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:26 pm

Sorry if Im sounding ignorant here, but what is the problem with your roof? Does it leak? He didnt install the ridge vent? Have him come back out and install it before you pay him is what I would do. Otherwise, I am not finding defects here. The overhanging shingles are supposed to overhang.

Pride_roofing

Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:50 pm

I agree with Master you have to have about a 1/4 inch overhang.

GODJOEY

Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:55 am

Sorry if the pictures looked like only 1/4 it's it failed the inspection because of that and no ridge vent. The arch of the roof the shingles look like it's all bunched up. Compared to all the new homes going up around here it sticks out like a sore thumb in comparison. Been contacting these idiots every day they are always out... the insurance company is cypress property and casualty.

This is normal ?
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tilesmessedup4ng.jpg


The roof leaked they had to come back and patch the new roof.. sad huh.
Again it leaked they had to come and replace the skylight. Instead of replacing all skylights they are coming back 2 to 3 month delays between patching the roof.

Master

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:50 am

What youre seeing there is a build up of layers of shingle due to having to reverse the ridge caps from the roof end and ending inside the roof edge. We do this too. I, however, would have trimmed the two overlapping full ridge cap pieces to butt together, trimmed off the third (2 inch wide) peice and had a pretty termination. They did this to keep it ultimately watertight.

GODJOEY

Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:08 am

It looks odd cause it's only in that 1 spot, if the entire roof looked like that I wouldn't have spotted it out or thought anything of it. But it looks odd compared to the roofs I see done around here, to me it looks like they tried to cover something up, or else it would match the other 30+ foot of ridge.

QRFL

Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:39 am

the picture"tilemessedup4ng"
i think there is another ridge going into that on the back side of the picture
is this right??
however i dont see why would you run a two way ridge without even centering it you got 5 caps to the left and at least 7 caps to the right..
if you just take it one way all the way to the end it will look more uniform. and wather tight.

the picture ending "tile5tu.jpg"
it seems like the roofer overlapped the shingles an inch or so instead of triming it to the right size(hard to tell blurry picture)

the picture "noridgevent3yp"
no ridge vent i see that .. i also see the pipe jacks are not painted to match roof..."ugly"

picture "2plusinchoverhang"
what was he thinking "this aint no stinking wood shakes"

again...
its only my opinion
good luck ....god bless....

Master

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:12 pm

Ridges are supposed to be laid in accordance with prevailing wind direction. In my area, we lay ridges for aspahlt shingle roofs form north to south and from east to west.

We sometimes have to watch what we say cuz aperfectly acceptable roofing application can be brought in here with the hopes that we, as ego testosterone filled ego-driven roofers will rip it apart and the homeowner may want to use our posts as ammunition against a contractor that has done nothing wrongl.

I would hate to see another roofer lose his ass because we said something off-fact but more emotional. Lets keep it straight and no one will be screwed. We have all seen those few homeowners that will try to get someothing for nothing simply because they were not thoughtful enuff to budget for a new roof when they bought their home, or simply do not want to payfor one, orwhatever.

I hope thisi s not one of those cases. Lets make sure we keep it factual. Was ridge vent in your contract? Are there gable vents?