Ugh, New Home...leaky Roof
newarcher
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:19 pm
Just moved into our new home (9 years old) last FRIDAY and we had a big storm last night. Granted, it was a bigun. I had the home inspected by a buddy who is a builder and we noted that when they added the sunroom, they weaved the shingles together. We knew this wasn't optimal and didn't appear to be the best job ever done. However, we looked HARD for signs of a leak and couldn't find any. I knew the owner wouldn't replace it based solely on "it might leak".
Last night I had a good bit of water coming in down the chimney and actually had water leaking from between the facia and cornice boards. It wasn't streaming but it was a heavy heavy drip. It was coming all from areas where it didn't leave any signs after the fact. A true hidden defect. Fortunately, it doesn't appear to have done any damage and didn't affect the inside of the house. However, I don't want this sunroom flooded every time it rains and it will eventually rot the wood.
So now I need to have the valley (dual sided) approximately 50' long I am guessing replaced with an appropriate valley system.
My questions are:
1) Which system would be best?...I can find some that say a weave is best on the net. I also heard closed, open, Caifornia, etc. I am roofing illiterate.
2) Would would you guess the cost to be assuming no boards are rotten up there. It seems to me that they could probably use most of the shingles that aren't in to immediate valley and probably wouldn't use two bundles of shingles on the whole job.
Thanks,
New
Last night I had a good bit of water coming in down the chimney and actually had water leaking from between the facia and cornice boards. It wasn't streaming but it was a heavy heavy drip. It was coming all from areas where it didn't leave any signs after the fact. A true hidden defect. Fortunately, it doesn't appear to have done any damage and didn't affect the inside of the house. However, I don't want this sunroom flooded every time it rains and it will eventually rot the wood.
So now I need to have the valley (dual sided) approximately 50' long I am guessing replaced with an appropriate valley system.
My questions are:
1) Which system would be best?...I can find some that say a weave is best on the net. I also heard closed, open, Caifornia, etc. I am roofing illiterate.
2) Would would you guess the cost to be assuming no boards are rotten up there. It seems to me that they could probably use most of the shingles that aren't in to immediate valley and probably wouldn't use two bundles of shingles on the whole job.
Thanks,
New
Master
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:21 pm
Can you post a pic?
newarcher
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:45 pm
Nah, sorry.
I can tell it is a bad job because it doesn't lay flat with the contours of the valley at all. I imagine that some of the neighborhood drunks probably did it one Saturday and were three sheets to the wind when they did so.
It could be as simple as not correctly applying tar to hold the shingles down or it could be as simple as the a$$clowns that did it didn't have the slightest clue what they were doing.
I seriously doubt that they had enough overlap on either side.
New
I can tell it is a bad job because it doesn't lay flat with the contours of the valley at all. I imagine that some of the neighborhood drunks probably did it one Saturday and were three sheets to the wind when they did so.
It could be as simple as not correctly applying tar to hold the shingles down or it could be as simple as the a$$clowns that did it didn't have the slightest clue what they were doing.
I seriously doubt that they had enough overlap on either side.
New
G-Tape
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:48 pm
Around $1200.
that is "around" $1200. it could go either way more than or below.
Good Luck.
that is "around" $1200. it could go either way more than or below.
Good Luck.
Master
Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:29 pm
No tar should be necessary, but I am right in there with Gtape.
QRFL
Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:41 am
if you see a gap underneith the shingles at the center of the valley,it could mean they didnt press them down before nailing.If this is the case and you have someone going up on the roof and steps in the valley it could cause a tear in the shingle that could leak.
valley best performance i would say you get out of a watershield underlayment at valley , then weave your felt on both sides then weave the shingles.
it looks bulky but is bulletproof.
my personal opinion of course
you should not need to use any tar in a well performed shingle application maybe a tube of silicon if not too many roof to wall sections
it sounds you have a chimney flashing problem , we would need to see "the chimney" to asist you.
i wanna say post the picture .
but....
how? , we tell homeowners to post a picture but i dont even know how?
note:
this remark is for the other roofers here not the homeowner
valley best performance i would say you get out of a watershield underlayment at valley , then weave your felt on both sides then weave the shingles.
it looks bulky but is bulletproof.
my personal opinion of course
you should not need to use any tar in a well performed shingle application maybe a tube of silicon if not too many roof to wall sections
it sounds you have a chimney flashing problem , we would need to see "the chimney" to asist you.
i wanna say post the picture .
but....
how? , we tell homeowners to post a picture but i dont even know how?
note:
this remark is for the other roofers here not the homeowner
Pride_roofing
Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:48 am
Well on vertical walls tar or any type of caulk i dont use. Properly installed Step Flashing will remove all trouble and has no need for caulk. 50 foot a piece on the valleys or total. I would be on something like that about 1600.00 But keep in mind i have totaled the chimny and valley.
QRFL
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:24 am
my mistake i should have rephrase i mean caulking on the sidewalls if you were installing new counter if it doesnt have z-bar.
however i always throw a little drop on the very corners at beginning and end of tin shingle run
however i always throw a little drop on the very corners at beginning and end of tin shingle run
patriot home improvement
Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:48 pm
sounds like you problem well the start of your problem was the shingles that were being weaved where not brought over far enough under the main roof. you would be looking at a price depending on wood damage from 900-1300. also what i would do is a california weave even though i live in massachusetts its the best weave ive seen by far it runs the shingles over under the main and it also has a sideways shingle for added protection plus i think it gives the best look anyways.
